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TN Playing Energy Hog: Uses TWICE as much electricity?!
Sheez. I just got this in the email, from our friends at Democracy for America:
It's downright shocking. Anyone know where they got these numbers? There's more on the email, and what DFA wants us to do about it (support a Bredesen energy proposal) after the jump. More from DFA:
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TWICE as much. Any theories as to why this could be? Cheap TVA juice, for example?
It could use some more research to see where Jim Grimstead with DFA got his numbers and information.
I guess he would be easy enough to reach by email for more information.
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How much of this happens in Blount County? Didn't Alcoa locate there for the cheap TVA electricity? (Is it still cheap?)
Liberty and justice for all.
My new home
Cheap TVA power is your answer. "Cheap" as in cents per KWH v. total costs to the environment that taxpayers and society subsidize. TVA has always promoted consumption, and pays only lip service to conservation.
Lovable, that's an interesting question. But, I believe that Alcoa actually owned the dams on the Little T at (besides Fontana and later Tellico) one point, and may still?
Although I would support every one of those initiatives listed under Bredesen's energy plan, the assertion that "Tennessee has the highest individual consumption of electricity in the country" is false. The sentence after it is also false ("Tennessee is also the greatest average monthly consumer of industrial electricity, using more than twice as much power as much larger states such as Texas and California.").
This table from the DOE shows that Tennessee's per capita consumption of electricity ranks us 13th in the nation, at roughly one third the per capita rate of California.
This table shows that we're 12th for industrial energy use, consuming only 12 percent of the amount Texas does.
~Russ
Anyone know where they got these numbers?
I didn't see any numbers in the e-mail to verify.
Russ, that table doesn't appear to me to have the per capita figure for electricity. It gives the total electricity consumption by state, and the per capita number for total energy, but not per capita electricity.
At any rate, don't more people in this area use electric heating than other regions? That might explain part of the difference.
Brian A.
Brian, you're right. This one places Tennessee 6th in the nation on per capita electricity use overall, which presumably includes industrial and commercial uses. This cached page from DOE says the following:
The second sentence of that quote might help explain the #1 rank; plus, it gets damn hot here in the summer, and we sure do love our A/C.
~Russ
This article is an interesting look at concerns around the world with countries stepping up and some into the use of Nuclear power. An interesting read, and esp. for those who are pro nuclear energy and enlight of the post here today.
Nuclear power 'renaissance' poses problems
Can developing nations run plants safely?
By George Jahn
Associated Press
Sunday, January 13, 2008
Read the complete article click here.
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We have lived in California's central valley and New Mexico and now in East TN. Our daily electric usage is much higher here than either of those other two states and there is no real big difference to our life style between these states. So why do we use far more juice here? There is a difference to our types of cooling.
In NewMexico and California to cool the houses we used this thing called a swamp cooler which is very inexpensive to run but does require water to operate. Swamp coolers don't work at all when there is any humidity in the air so of course here in TN we are on a heat pump unit for chilled air.
The biggest difference in usage is simply the fact that we have to run our A/C at night here in TN while out west nightfall means it is time to find a jacket.
Well, yeah, but it's hotter in TX, and more humid in FL. And we're still using more than our share. It's a shame.
However, the whole question as to why we use more electric is still unanswered.
Folks in TN don't use as many Christmas lights as folks UpNorth but are they less likely to replace that nine bulb bathroom vanity light from 1982 than folks in other states?
The answer must be in the amount of heating and cooling days and then add in the fact that TN uses more total electric systems than Ohio or NewMexico. I would rather see a Carbon Footprint type of comparison rather than a simple electric usage comparison.
I would rather see a Carbon Footprint type of comparison rather than a simple electric usage comparison.
I think the BTU information in the table Russ linked to above is a better measurement of that than singling out electricity usage.
It's also worth pointing out that some of the electricity we use is hydro-generated (no greenhouse gases).
Brian A.